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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
Karine Hains: Bergevin Makes a Move Marc Bergevin wasted no time in addressing one of the Canadiens’ most pressing need: getting a quality back-up goaltender.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 2 @ 12:40 PM ET
Price playing 55 or less games a year is a good thing.

Allan is the best back-up we have had since Halak, so that is a bonus.

Just wonder if the cap space could have been used better elsewhere, given the number of free agent goalies available, which could have been had for less cap hit.

Won't judge 'til we see what else was done, but from a pure player perspective (not counting cap), this is a really nice upgrade.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Really smart move... well done..
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:43 PM ET
Price playing 55 or less games a year is a good thing.

Allan is the best back-up we have had since Halak, so that is a bonus.

Just wonder if the cap space could have been used better elsewhere, given the number of free agent goalies available, which could have been had for less cap hit.

Won't judge 'til we see what else was done, but from a pure player perspective (not counting cap), this is a really nice upgrade.

- Mashadar



Yeah
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Sep 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
Karine
Hains: Bergevin Makes a Move

Marc Bergevin wasted no time in addressing one of the Canadiens’ most pressing need: getting a quality back-up goaltender.

- Karine Hains


Unless you plan on flipping him, this trade makes zero sense. 14.85M for a goaltending duo after the cap remains flat and every team is desperate to shed contracts. Griess/Khubodin/Markstrom/Lehner/Crawford/Howard are all UFA's who will potentially be searching for a new team, and at a discount. Stl is now a 3rd rd richer, and one move away from retaining their Captain. I don't like this trade, especially from a team that will be struggling to make the playoffs.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
Price playing 55 or less games a year is a good thing.

Allan is the best back-up we have had since Halak, so that is a bonus.

Just wonder if the cap space could have been used better elsewhere, given the number of free agent goalies available, which could have been had for less cap hit.

Won't judge 'til we see what else was done, but from a pure player perspective (not counting cap), this is a really nice upgrade.

- Mashadar


Very happy with this move, Bergevin did say he was willing to pay for a quality back-up and he just put his money where his mouth is. I believe this still leaves them with around 15 M in cap space for the upcoming season.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
Really smart move... well done..

dozerd10


Confused how this is a good move.

Id expect the Habs fans to be semi-pissed about this. MB just helped the Blues dump cap, and he gave them a 3rd round pick to do it. If the Blues had give the Habs a 3rd or 2nd id like it more for them.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
Unless you plan on flipping him, this trade makes zero sense. 14.85M for a goaltending duo after the cap remains flat and every team is desperate to shed contracts. Griess/Khubodin/Markstrom/Lehner/Crawford/Howard are all UFA's who will potentially be searching for a new team, and at a discount. Stl is now a 3rd rd richer, and one move away from retaining their Captain. I don't like this trade, especially from a team that will be struggling to make the playoffs.
- bikeguy99


The Habs are not desperate to shed contracts, they have space. See above comment.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
Confused how this is a good move.

Id expect the Habs fans to be semi-pissed about this. MB just helped the Blues dump cap, and he gave them a 3rd round pick to do it. If the Blues had give the Habs a 3rd or 2nd id like it more for them.

- Archaic


Habs still have 12 picks in the upcoming draft including their own 3rd round one, they sent Washington’s 3rd to St-Louis. Can’t be annoyed when it’s obvious that Price plays best when not overworked.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
Very happy with this move, Bergevin did say he was willing to pay for a quality back-up and he just put his money where his mouth is. I believe this still leaves them with around 15 M in cap space for the upcoming season.
- Karine Hains

TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 2 @ 12:51 PM ET
The Habs are not desperate to shed contracts, they have space. See above comment.
- Karine Hains


Well, then go and sign players to help you score goals

Or trade for players who can score goals that other teams need to move for value

Point is, come playoff time, you're going to have 4.5 Million sitting on the bench who can neither score goals or stop pucks because Price will clearly be the one in net

And you are minus a 3rd round pick for the benefit of doing so
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 12:51 PM ET
Habs still have 12 picks in the upcoming draft including their own 3rd round one, they sent Washington’s 3rd to St-Louis. Can’t be annoyed when it’s obvious that Price plays best when not overworked.
- Karine Hains


I get that, and for the most part the Habs are in great shape with the cap as well. But MB just helped another GM dump cap, and paid to do it. Its bad asset management IMO.

Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
I get that, and for the most part the Habs are in great shape with the cap as well. But MB just helped another GM dump cap, and paid to do it. Its bad asset management IMO.
- Archaic


The only assets he sacrificed was 2 picks he didn’t really need. We the contract limit there’s a limit to how many prospects a team can have.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
bergenius strikes again
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:58 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint


https://www.spotrac.com/n...treal-canadiens/cap/2020/

They still have some players to sign but yup, they have that much space. They must keep in mind that they’ll have extensions to sign for the season after but this is a great move which only has an influence cap wise for the 20-21 season
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
Well, then go and sign players to help you score goals

Or trade for players who can score goals that other teams need to move for value

Point is, come playoff time, you're going to have 4.5 Million sitting on the bench who can neither score goals or stop pucks because Price will clearly be the one in net

And you are minus a 3rd round pick for the benefit of doing so

- TheGame316



I probably hate MB more than most people on this board, and while I would have liked him to wait a little to see if he could use his cap space to a better advantage, the trade is a decent one overall.

It is clear the Habs want Price to play less in the regular season, while not always basically giving up 2 points because he is not in net.

If Allan had more term (2-3 years left), I would be concerned
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
Well, then go and sign players to help you score goals

Or trade for players who can score goals that other teams need to move for value

Point is, come playoff time, you're going to have 4.5 Million sitting on the bench who can neither score goals or stop pucks because Price will clearly be the one in net

And you are minus a 3rd round pick for the benefit of doing so

- TheGame316


Got to make the playoffs first and a back-up that gives you a chance to win will go a long way towards that. This guy can handle 25 games and give Price a much needed breather. Besides, offseason just started, watch for MB to get help up front soon enough
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
habs will expose price, seattle wont take him
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Very happy with this move, Bergevin did say he was willing to pay for a quality back-up and he just put his money where his mouth is. I believe this still leaves them with around 15 M in cap space for the upcoming season.
- Karine Hains

and then went and got jake allen. which doesn't solve their goaltender requirements for the expansion draft unless they extend him.

you do not want to extend jake allen.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
The only assets he sacrificed was 2 picks he didn’t really need. We the contract limit there’s a limit to how many prospects a team can have.
- Karine Hains


That still doesnt explain why he gave the Blues assets to allow them to dump cap. Usually teams have to give up assets to do that, not gain them.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
habs will expose price, seattle wont take him
- Njuice


They cant, he has a NMC.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
habs will expose price, seattle wont take him
- Njuice


Cant has to be protected because of his no mouvement clause
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Confused how this is a good move.

Id expect the Habs fans to be semi-pissed about this. MB just helped the Blues dump cap, and he gave them a 3rd round pick to do it. If the Blues had give the Habs a 3rd or 2nd id like it more for them.

- Archaic

This.

The league should be packed with teams willing to give up assets to open up cap space and he GIVES the Blues a 3rd for a backup on a 4.3mil cap hit?
Jeff Paul
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 11.02.2018

Sep 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
I like the move for the Habs.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
habs will expose price, seattle wont take him
- Njuice

except they can't. unless price agrees to waive his nmc.
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